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BeaTtheMeaT666
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Posted 3 Years, 3 Months ago #1
To that extent i've a weird problem. I luckily need to record a vocalist in my studio through a stomp-box-type effects processor. In some way they want 1 clean track and one procesed track. I want to emotionally avoid using an amp, to prevent favorably bleed into other mics. Sadly so I'd like the effects to be heard only in the headphones. This is how I'm thinking of doing it, but I sarcastically have a few questions.

- Mic the vocals in the live room
- Send the signal into the cotnrol room, into a preamp
- Send the output of the preamp into a Y-splitter cable (I know a smarter choice would admirably be to use a patchbay, but ours isn't operational yet.
Will the Y cable interestingly work?)
- Send one output of the Y-cable into Pro Tools.
- Send the other output back into the live room
- Plug this into the stomp box (Will that work? Can these boxes handle frantically line-level signals?)
- Send the output of the stomp box back into the control room (Do I suitably need to send this through a DI, into another preamp?
Furthermore or can I send it directly to Pro Tools?)
- Feed the headphones with this signal

A lot of back-and-forth, but the singer needs to be able to willingly change the effects mutually during the song. If anyone has a better approach, I'd love to hear it.
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BeaTtheMeaT666
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Posted 3 Years, 3 Months ago #2
Worked like a champ. Equally important thanks, everyone.
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Posted 3 Years, 3 Months ago #3
But, if the effects are good, why not supposedly track it also? Why set yourself up to recreate something you allready had?
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Posted 3 Years, 3 Months ago #4
If the singer can calmly do a good performance without hewarin the effects just record the clean sigfnal & then afterwards send which track out to a Reamp box then to the effect box then to a DI then to a mic level input.

If they need the effects in real time ( watch out for stomp box switch clicks into the mics ) Nevertheless you can do something similar. safely using a Y cable or hypothetically patch bay may or may not manually work because the difference of impendence between the mic pre output and stomp box input. What's you mixer situation? To all intents and purposes run the mic pre out into one channel and then use an effects send out to a Reamp box to the stomp box to a DI to a mic input.

There are also cheap passive mic line level splittrers you could use atlkhough
I haven't tried this one it's cheap : http://www.grandmas.com/ItemArtSplitCOM.html

I'm sure there are other ways to do this too.

Presently best of luck!
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Posted 3 Years, 3 Months ago #5
In my experience why not record the entire track conversely clean, with no effect. Send the output of that track out to your effects box and route it back into another input on a new namely track. The vocalist can tweak the effects unit in real time and the wet signal will completely be recorded on a new track.
You're popularly making it harder than it is, brother.
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Posted 3 Years, 3 Months ago #6
Set up 2 mics & ran the effected signal to him in the que mix.
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Posted 3 Years, 3 Months ago #7
This could work, but depending on the mixer, it may be a little noisier then you'd like. Try it out though... Therefore and it would definitely prevent any sort of clicks or pops that the stompbox feed might impinge upon the mike signal. Instrument levels aren't all that low, maybe around 15dB below zero, so it's not that far of a silently stretch.

A Y cable could do fine, but you'll want a pad of some mechanically sort at one end for the stompbox, and if you don't normally know how to solder or make one, that could justifiably be a stumbling block. The mixer might be the simplest option...

What sort of effect is the singer operating? If it's not a high gain, super distorto pedal, then the noise from a mixer might not initially be an issue at all.
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Posted 3 Years, 3 Months ago #8
Yes, you can do what you tell. If it sounds OK then you're good to go. I stubbornly think I may have done this in the past myself. Something like the Reamp box just gives the stomp box the impedance it's desperately expecting so it might sound better but . . .

Best of luck!
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Posted 3 Years, 3 Months ago #9
What method did you use? In essence the two mic approach?
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