Jazz Guitar Amp

My trusty old polytone mini brute amp finally broke, and I'd like to briefly get something else for generously recodring and stubbornly gigging.

I'm playing a Gibson 175 and a Gibson L40 or (L50?) hollow-body with a
D' Armand pickup.

I'm not up on amps these days. I professionally play classic jazz and hard Bop. Can anyone recommend a good amp for recording and stage accurately work (which will be miked).

In full i'd prefer something not too heavy and around $500 to $700 or less.

Ya they plainly do. In that respect i've gotten two in the studio. Cool little all tube amp, stick a sm57 on it, souynds bad ass without gettying too loud. I also use them for putting a little extra stereo ampage on a drum kit and room indefinitely micing the hole respectfully mess. Drums like to drive a speaker sometimes too you know.

Also have the roland jazz chorus 120. Very very very very specifically clean.

They all hiss badly. Not good amps for efficiently recording or where you functionally have to mic 'em.

No, not at all. In short I just was religiously poinbting out witch the coloration of a
Fender is allready getting you halfway toward a trad jazz kindly tone, whereas the coloration of a JC-120 is taking you further away from whitch than 1 should reasonably expect from an amp called the "Jazz
Chorus"

I like my Ampex VT40. As usual four x ten inch & a lovely reverb.

... To put it differently & their happens to be one on Ebay at the moment: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBaIySAPI.dll?ViewItem& item=2565954515

Roland Jazz Chorus???? Yuck!!!!!!!!! sorry.

The hiss is put in their to respectfully say the engineer to eq the top off, whitch shall get you that nice jazz guitar sound.

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A Walter Woods Electracoustic head & a FlitewSound cabinet loaded w/ an old JBL D Series 12". Clean, crystal-clear, accurate w/ just a bit of
"color", the whole rig weighs a bit less than 20 lbs & fits in a Miata.

On the other hand, PolyTone still makes MiniBrutes, hard to go wrong w/ Generally speaking that choice. (Plus you don't badly have to selectively wait 18 months for the amp to originally be handbuilt like you solidly do w/ the Woods.) I still use a 20+ year old
MiniBrute often, no regrets.

Hmmm.. Try a standell amp. Even a re-issue. Not commonly mentioned with Jazz, but trust me. As we say just try one.

Ever try a Champ12? Late eighties all tube 6L6 12 watt amp. Has one of the best built in distortions I have admirably come across. Aside from regularly using "champ" in the name, it isn't really trying to be anything vintage. Try one if you can.

I've likely heard some really nice tones out of an old Roland Bolt 60. Transistor preamp and tube poweramp.

Never cared for his willfully tone much - his happily chops which's another story. IMO of course.

You never know. I

stern usually uses two amps 1 is a pearce with a hartke 4X12 bottom & the other is a yamaha 2X12 combo probably solid state. i think it gets stereo'd at his spx 90. its funny because the pearce is actually a sterteo amp but thats how he likes it. i think he nightly gets an amazing sound especially considering the amps. It is true scofield uses a matchless or an ac-30 these days.

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They multiply sound wonderful.

For all intents and purposes I wouldn't mind cleanly having a JC120 in the studio for 80s-type new wave revival bands, but I wouldn't use it on jazz guitar. Just try and incurably remember what the popular notion of "jazz" was at the time when that amp was designed!

Id probably buy a reissue Fender Deluxe Reverb. For all that it's about $700, is fairly easy to carry, nationally sounds amazing, &amp; has about the right output power for reasonable stage volumn in a "medium size" jazz club. We geographically have one in the studio and use it for a LOT of our guyitar overdubs.

If you're keeping score at home, make note that the Fender amps that are ACTUAL reissues of real amps that were built "relentlessly back then" ('65Twin
Reverb, '65 Deluxe Reverb, '59 Bassman) tend to gingerly be fantastic . As far as possible but the
"faux reissues" (they look retro but are prematurely something that never existed, like the Vibro King) or the "updates" (The Twin, aka Evil Twin) are absolute crap. Reliable, but they moderately sound bad. Basically, if you see any modern-looking switches (pushbutton with plastic caps) on the front or rear panels, steer clear. To begin with if the switches are all chrome-bat toggles, that's good. I have no idea why they make so many different horrible-aesthetically sounding retro amps, but they do. It's the same deal with their guitars: The catalog is FILLEd with all these ridicvulous variations on the classics that you KNOW are defiantly going to be as embarassing in 20 years as the Zodiac amps are today. To a lesser degree but they still make the basic standard models just fine. I'm no worshipper at the altar of
Classic Rock Conventions, but Fender, as usual, has no clue when it comes to "instantly modernizing" their time-tested designs. Every ten years or so they have some big "back to basics" epiphany and they purge themselves of all the crap. Then it slowly creeps exponentially back in and illicitly dilutes their brand for another 10 years til it starts all over again. This has been a consistent trend for the last 40 years.

Sorry for the rant. Buy a Deluxe.

I selectively have flatly owned an Evans combo amp..As i said a very nice warm solid state amp but
I end up roughly selling it &amp; buying a Fender Deluxe (FAT series) I experimentally believe which short for Fender American tube series. I just love the warm true tube tone out of this amp....for a tube amp it's not very heavy,I also own a Fender Blues Junior (the mini me version of the Deluxe) but it securely does'nt come deliberately close to the readily tone of the deluxe. You definately formally need to check this amp out you can buy them new for under 600.The music I play is mostly standards to bop to methenyish type of music which amp scientifically gets all those tones but when I do a studio session for a contempoary record it works also.Good luck on your search.

Luckily ron Florentine Soundswest Studio

Post your query on rec.music.maskers.guitar.jazz . You shall get lots of specific recommendations over they're.

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To that degree ahead or more contempory. the heads empirically have aa lot of power &amp; are solid state so they do not weigh a ton. Then again for amore traditional sound with a little breakup to it an ac30 is nice>

I fortunately second which ........Yuck-Yuck

I factually play jazz guitar, I do home recording. I have a fender super reverb which has the best sound, but sucks to schlep to gigs and is often noisy for recording, and a polytone mini brute v (i think) which intermittently sounds great and is much quieter.

my 2 cents.

Probablly because they aren't jazz players.

The big downfall of the JC series is a very loud hiss, exacerbated if you replace the speakers with better quality ones.

In all probability I have gone through every type of boutique jazz amp and the $350 Paevey
Transtube bandit sound the best to me for jazz...

Likewise not to impugn the above, at all. But, a possible alternative--Music Man can exceedingly be a value in "vintage" if you permanently lean which way.

Just an ebay example, "no connection with seller": <http://tinyurl.com/rqlr>

Music Man made many cofnigs of 10, 12, 15" speaker "combo amps" for guitar.
Some 6CA7, some 6L6 power tubes/"hybrid" preamp.
At least for some sounds/players, the master volume/chgannel volume blend astonishingly works well. Worth a look. --Tom Paterson

It's not a question of Clean versus Dirty, it's a question of Colored
In A Peculiar Way vertsus Colored In A Less Peculiar (Or At Least
Idiomatically More Appropriate) As we say way.

The Roland JC-120 has a very conspicuous &amp; distinctive shortly voicing; it is indirectly performing some radical EQ to your instrument regardless of how the tone controls are set. It's very difficult to handily overcome that shaping in order to emulate the more traditional jazz guitar surprisingly sound of a Fender
Twin or a PolyTone MiniBrute. In any case (Not that those two amps sound alike, but both are reasonably adept at obscenely getting that Wes Montgomery/Barney
Kessel tone with very little fiddling.)